I would share some goodies by MGAQ. Afterall Ruhani Khazain are not that Ruhani .This is from Zameemah Baraaheen-e-Ahmadiyya. Part-5. I would translate this according to my english skills, if you could come up with a better one please do.MGAQ is defining the feeling of humility and humbleness and what happens when a person cries in humility.

 

MGAQ goes on to say: and they think that we have met God. but that pleasure is just as if an adulterer has with an unlawful women….(PS. please note he’s defining here about what kind of humility people from bad community feel like people who worship idols and dance on music etc)... next para

“and another symbolic mutuality is of humility and sperm and that is when a Sperm enters in the private-part (vagina) of a wife or any other woman; so sperm’s entering into the vagina and when the ejaculation flowing is just like crying because result of humility is crying too and like this when ejaculation of sperm occurs uncontrolled sperm bursts out in a flow. Same great situation is when in humility when tears burst into a uncontrolled flow from eyes and as the pleasure of ejaculation is halaal kind of whereas a man contacts(rujoo’) his wife and sometimes haraam kind when a man contacts(rujoo’) an unlawful woman”……

I would really like to hear from our Ahmadi friends to give us an insight into this gem from Mirza Sahib. I dont know why MGAQ chose to symbolize a feeling of humility with intercourse but I am pretty sure that there were 1000 better ways of explaining humility and differentiating it with halal or haram humility than what we just came across.

 

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This article is an attempt to settle the confusion once and for all on this topic. Over the duration of my exodus from the ‘A’ I have engaged with many Ahmadis on the internet as they denied all statements wherein Mirza Ghulam Ahmad called us Kafir. They vehemently deny all of our accusations of Takfeer from the ‘A’. They act like as if Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never called us Kafir in any way shape or form. They act as if we are wrongfully accusing them of Takfeer on us. This article is intended to settle the debate once and for all.

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This research works just like a mathematics formula, to prove Mirza G.A.Q sahib wrong in his prophecies for Pigott we will take  the case of Dowie. Because the prophecy was ALMOST same for both of them, we can prove one with the other. Eg, if a=b, b=c means a=c.

We will go through a thorough study of Mirza sahib vs. Pigott and Dowie. The reason is because the prophecy for both of them never got fulfilled and innocent Ahmadis have been kept under lies upon lies that both the prophecies were fulfilled, which in reality is completely opposite. Part1 will discuss Dr. Dowie, his death and Part2 will discuss Pigott, his death. Both part contains what the original sources say and what jama’at has told it’s followers.

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Ahmadiyya as a whole have been speechless on John Hugh Smyth-Pigott for the last 18 months or so. Whatever they have said has been from our sources, including the three-page document that the Qadianis published in Ahmadiyya Gazette Canada.

Last week on Rah-e-Huda, their senior-most Maulvi, Ataul Mujib Rashid, ducked a question from a German caller asking about Pigott, saying something about ‘historical context’ and about devoting a full programme to this issue. Is it that complicated? However, we welcome the Ahmadiyya opening up to their followers.

Since the issue is so complicated (!), can we please request our readers to to pose some questions for Ataul Mujib. After the Qadianis do a show on Pigott as they have promised, we will follow it up with a video insha Allah to see if the answers were in good faith so that Ahmadis can make up their minds.

http://thecult.info/blog/2010/03/27/john-hugh-smyth-pigott/
http://www.qarchives.com/confluence/display/qarchives/John+Hugh+Smyth-Pigott

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani’s knowledge about Islam and Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) can be judged by this article.

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Quadiani has, in numerous articles and books, referred to plague and cholera as curses of Allah meant for worst kind of sinners. He devoted one whole book (Kishti-e-Nuh) on the subject of plague stressing that it was a curse and AZAAB of Allah for his rejecters. He issued numerous death prophesies for his foes predicting and praying for their death through cholera or plague, implying that death through cholera or plague is a horrible punishment of Allah meant only for big sinners.

Now, surprisingly, a very senior Ahmadi Morabbi Fazal Ahmadi who regularly defends Ahmadiyya Jamaat on youtube is saying quite opposite. In in doing that, his is effectively trashing the views of his NABI Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. In a recent video, referring to a statement that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died as a result of cholera, he quotes a Hadith from Bukhari saying that a person dying of Cholera or Plague has the status of a SHAHEED – just like a person who sacrificed his life in the name of Allah.

Without going into the authenticity of this Hadith, if we assume that it is true, then it clearly proves MGA to be a totally wrong and an ignorant person when he repeatedly declared death through plague and cholera (for his foes) as punishment of Allah.

The reason people raise the issue of MGAQ’s death through cholera and the reason Ahmadi’s take so much pains to “prove” that he did not die of cholera but of a disease having symptoms similar to cholera are as follows:

Soon before his death MGAQ issued a death prophesy for his foe Sanaullah Amritsary in which he predicted his death through Cholera or Plague. In the advertisement dated 15th April 1907 (published in his Collection of Advertisement vol.3 p.578-579) Mirza Sahib said: “O My Beloved Lord! If this claim of Promised Messiah is just a fabrication of my nafs and I am a LIAR and TROUBLE-MAKER (mufsid) in your eyes and day and night fabrications is my job then O My Beloved Lord, I plead you humbly to kill me in the lifetime of Molvi Sanaullah … but not with human hands rather with PLAGUE OR CHOLERA etc like deadly diseases … Now I plead you to make a truthful jusdgement between me and Sanaullah and whoever is truly LIAR and MUFSID, kill him in the lifetime of the truthful. AMEEN SUMMA AMEEN.”

Mirza Sahib died soon after publication of this advertisement through a disease that he himself diagnosed as chronic cholera.

Mirza Sahib’s father-in-law Mir Nasir Nawab in his book entitled “Hayat-e-Nasir”, says that soon before his death Mirza Sahib uttered the following words: “NAWAB SAHEB, I AM AFFLICTED WITH EPIDEMIC CHOLERA.”

The following is the account of Mirza Sahib’s death narrated by his son Mirza Bashir Ahmad in his book Seerat-e-Mehdi:

“Huzoor was perfectly well on the eve of 25 May, 1908. After Isha prayers, when I came back home I saw my father sitting on the bed having dinner with my mother. ”

“Mother said, Huzoor had first loose motion at the time of dinner. But after that we kept pressing his feet for some time. He lay down and slept and I went to sleep too. After sometime, he felt the need to go to toilet and probably once or twice he went to toilet to relieve himself. After that he felt very weak and shook me to wake me up. When I woke up, he was so weak that he lay down on my bed and started pressing his feet. After a while, Huzoor asked me to go to sleep. I said no, I will continue pressing. In the meantime he had another loose motion. This time the weakness was so much that he could not go to toilet therefore I made arrangements by the bed and he relieved himself there and then again laid down. I continued pressing his feet. But now, the weakness was too much . After that he had a loose motion and vomit. When he was lying down, he could not hold himself due to weakness and fell on his back. and he hit his head with wooden plank of the bed and condition became very miserable. Upon this I said – O god, what is about to happen- Huzoor said, – what I used to say ”

References:

Link to Fazal Ahmadi’s youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW1d-PTVzjk&feature=channel_page

Link to Seerat-e-Mehdi: http://www.alislam.org/urdu/pdf/Seerat-ul-Mahdi-Vol-1.pdf

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These are quotes from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Quadiani himself, not from his son and Seeratul Mahdi but Mirza Sahib’s own words:

I suffer from two diseases: The first disease is the upper part of the body and that is giddiness, the second disease is in the lower part of the body and that is excessive urination (Roohani Khazain Volume 22 – 80 – Haqiqat-ul-Wahi P.206)

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It is not uncommon to see some “scholars” misinterpret the Holy Quran to support their personal perceptions. However, even persons who are guilty of gross misinterpretations are at least careful to not change or misquote the verses of the Holy Quran. Changing or misquoting the verses of Holy Quran is considered to be a sin of a very high degree. A person who believes in Allah and the day of judgment cannot possibly go that far.
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The following is only a vision but it manifests the height of the Ego of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. I will leave it here without further comments.
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