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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by Yousaf Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Yousaf Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see even other religions pray for us &quot;Muslims&quot;. Look at the words you use &quot;we Ahmadis&quot; lol

This report proves everything. Why didn&#039;t jama&#039;at spoke up when Qudoos was taken in? Why didn&#039;t jama&#039;at spoke up when qudoos was released and if his health was so bad, why didn&#039;t masroor did anything? kept quiet? lol and he waited to kill him so that they can throw the matter at police later.

If everything is false, why didn&#039;t masroor reply to Ahmed Yousaf&#039;s daughter? why no report for Ahmed Yousaf in a single publication? I can get you on every point here buddy.listen to the interview again!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see even other religions pray for us &#8220;Muslims&#8221;. Look at the words you use &#8220;we Ahmadis&#8221; lol</p>
<p>This report proves everything. Why didn&#8217;t jama&#8217;at spoke up when Qudoos was taken in? Why didn&#8217;t jama&#8217;at spoke up when qudoos was released and if his health was so bad, why didn&#8217;t masroor did anything? kept quiet? lol and he waited to kill him so that they can throw the matter at police later.</p>
<p>If everything is false, why didn&#8217;t masroor reply to Ahmed Yousaf&#8217;s daughter? why no report for Ahmed Yousaf in a single publication? I can get you on every point here buddy.listen to the interview again!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by Truth</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 01:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the cult is caught in the middle of ............just deny everything........this seems to be the strategy of the cult.............. say that all allegations are false ..............and do not admit any guilt. These are not the signs of true people. True people have the courage to admit their faults and have open minds to accept criticism when factual evidence is provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the cult is caught in the middle of &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;just deny everything&#8230;&#8230;..this seems to be the strategy of the cult&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. say that all allegations are false &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and do not admit any guilt. These are not the signs of true people. True people have the courage to admit their faults and have open minds to accept criticism when factual evidence is provided.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by Peace</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirza clan is a mafia cult......this incident proves it, anyone who disagrees with them they go after them.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirza clan is a mafia cult&#8230;&#8230;this incident proves it, anyone who disagrees with them they go after them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to IG Punjab (Ahmed Yousaf / Qudoos case) by truth</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/uncategorized/letter-to-ig-punjab-ahmed-yousaf-qudoos-case/comment-page-1#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah kya bat kahi apne. Apne logon ki ankhein khol di hai. Khuda ap ko sach bolne ke liye sawab e jaia ata kare. ameen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah kya bat kahi apne. Apne logon ki ankhein khol di hai. Khuda ap ko sach bolne ke liye sawab e jaia ata kare. ameen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to IG Punjab (Ahmed Yousaf / Qudoos case) by Rationalist</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/uncategorized/letter-to-ig-punjab-ahmed-yousaf-qudoos-case/comment-page-1#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ shamsul 

These Ahmadis are just as violent and extreme as the conservative leaders of Islam in the Punjaab, there is no difference.  

Liberal Islam has no place within Ahmadiyyat.  The Arya Samaj were better than Ahmadis in that they allowed differences of opinion and seperatism.  Ahmadis are soooo extreme...if you dont agree with them...you might die!!!  WTF man????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ shamsul </p>
<p>These Ahmadis are just as violent and extreme as the conservative leaders of Islam in the Punjaab, there is no difference.  </p>
<p>Liberal Islam has no place within Ahmadiyyat.  The Arya Samaj were better than Ahmadis in that they allowed differences of opinion and seperatism.  Ahmadis are soooo extreme&#8230;if you dont agree with them&#8230;you might die!!!  WTF man????????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by Rationalist</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ real truth

What should we do with the testimony of the family of Ahmad Yousaf???

Its obvious that Ahmadis only care about life/death of Ahmadis.  You people dont care at all for anyone else!!!  I thought the motto was LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE????  I just remembered...that&#039;s your marketing slogan only.  

Master Qudoos was taken into custody because the police had credible info that he was involved in the murder of Ahmad Yousaf.   He was then released on his own 2 feet.  He mysteriously died!!!!!  

Can we blame the Khuddam of Rabwah for the series of events here?  That&#039;s 3 mysterious deaths from a religious community-based-city, i.e. Rabwah.  

In the end...who killed Ahmad Yousaf in Rabwah????  The killer is still at large.  He is most likely an Ahmadi.  This is most likely a HATE-CRIME from Ahmadis!!!!!!!!!!  

And you people complain about human rights????  You yourselves are just like the rest of people of Pakistan, i.e. conservative and violent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ real truth</p>
<p>What should we do with the testimony of the family of Ahmad Yousaf???</p>
<p>Its obvious that Ahmadis only care about life/death of Ahmadis.  You people dont care at all for anyone else!!!  I thought the motto was LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE????  I just remembered&#8230;that&#8217;s your marketing slogan only.  </p>
<p>Master Qudoos was taken into custody because the police had credible info that he was involved in the murder of Ahmad Yousaf.   He was then released on his own 2 feet.  He mysteriously died!!!!!  </p>
<p>Can we blame the Khuddam of Rabwah for the series of events here?  That&#8217;s 3 mysterious deaths from a religious community-based-city, i.e. Rabwah.  </p>
<p>In the end&#8230;who killed Ahmad Yousaf in Rabwah????  The killer is still at large.  He is most likely an Ahmadi.  This is most likely a HATE-CRIME from Ahmadis!!!!!!!!!!  </p>
<p>And you people complain about human rights????  You yourselves are just like the rest of people of Pakistan, i.e. conservative and violent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to IG Punjab (Ahmed Yousaf / Qudoos case) by Shamsul Tabrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamsul Tabrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 05:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>physical punishment which was given to Shaheed Ahmad Yusaf was a Strategy by nizam. Nizame jamate ahmadiya gives physical punishment to thier sharpasand ahmadis.

According to ahmadiya nizam, making
different opinion in ahmadiyyat or
criticizing the nizam is SHARR. So they have different tactics of physical punishment. Which is often done by thier Amoor ama badmash gang (Ahmadiyya administration).

see the proof
 http://islamahmadiyya.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/badni-saza/

Abdul Qudoos ke Death ka zimadar sirf Ahmadiyya Nizam hai. Wo ayse ke ye nizam un logo ke khilaf nafrat or eshtial peda kardeta hai jo log nizam ya khilafat pr tanqeed karte hay. (islam mai elmi tanqeed jaiz hai) To chunke nizam ke usool ke mutabiq tanqeed karne walo ko ahmadi society mai munafaq, sharrpasand popularise karwaya jata hai, jis ke natije mai Ahmadi ohdedar log ghusse mai atey hay or oss shakhs ko tang karna shuroo kardete hay. Jabtak Ahmadiyya jamat ke markaz ko root se khatam na kiya jaye ye nizam issi tarha BADMASHI ke tareeko se tanqeed karne wale ahmadiyo ko marwata rahe ga.

ahmadiyya nizam, ahmad yusaf ki shahadat ko darasal lekhram peshawri ki death jesa rang dena chahta hai. Ke ghaib se kisi ne ahmad yusaf ko qatal kia. goya darate dhamkate or tang khud karte hay, marwate bhe khud hay or phir mansoob kardete hay KHUDA ki taraf, jese lekhram peshawri ki maut. Nizam apni har bat ko khuda ki taraf mansoob karta hai. Khalifa khud muntakhib karta hai or kehta hai isey Khuda ne banaya. Ahmadiyo ko khud apni tadbeero se marwata hai or mansoob Khuda ki taraf karta hai ke Ghaib se kisi ne qatal kia. Ye nizam to yazeedi nizam se bhe badtarr hai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physical punishment which was given to Shaheed Ahmad Yusaf was a Strategy by nizam. Nizame jamate ahmadiya gives physical punishment to thier sharpasand ahmadis.</p>
<p>According to ahmadiya nizam, making<br />
different opinion in ahmadiyyat or<br />
criticizing the nizam is SHARR. So they have different tactics of physical punishment. Which is often done by thier Amoor ama badmash gang (Ahmadiyya administration).</p>
<p>see the proof<br />
 <a href="http://islamahmadiyya.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/badni-saza/" rel="nofollow">http://islamahmadiyya.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/badni-saza/</a></p>
<p>Abdul Qudoos ke Death ka zimadar sirf Ahmadiyya Nizam hai. Wo ayse ke ye nizam un logo ke khilaf nafrat or eshtial peda kardeta hai jo log nizam ya khilafat pr tanqeed karte hay. (islam mai elmi tanqeed jaiz hai) To chunke nizam ke usool ke mutabiq tanqeed karne walo ko ahmadi society mai munafaq, sharrpasand popularise karwaya jata hai, jis ke natije mai Ahmadi ohdedar log ghusse mai atey hay or oss shakhs ko tang karna shuroo kardete hay. Jabtak Ahmadiyya jamat ke markaz ko root se khatam na kiya jaye ye nizam issi tarha BADMASHI ke tareeko se tanqeed karne wale ahmadiyo ko marwata rahe ga.</p>
<p>ahmadiyya nizam, ahmad yusaf ki shahadat ko darasal lekhram peshawri ki death jesa rang dena chahta hai. Ke ghaib se kisi ne ahmad yusaf ko qatal kia. goya darate dhamkate or tang khud karte hay, marwate bhe khud hay or phir mansoob kardete hay KHUDA ki taraf, jese lekhram peshawri ki maut. Nizam apni har bat ko khuda ki taraf mansoob karta hai. Khalifa khud muntakhib karta hai or kehta hai isey Khuda ne banaya. Ahmadiyo ko khud apni tadbeero se marwata hai or mansoob Khuda ki taraf karta hai ke Ghaib se kisi ne qatal kia. Ye nizam to yazeedi nizam se bhe badtarr hai.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by RealTruth</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>RealTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The medical report proves nothing. It was already confirmed that the police were corrupting the facts to justify their actions. Ridiculous allegations are made here, with no supporting evidence, simply an opinion with flawed logic is stated. It is clear that the family of Yousaf were the ones who wanted to blame somebody for the death of their father, thus they blamed Qudos.

2)  The issue of Yousaf is that he was not acknowledged by the Khalif. Obviously AK Shaikh thinks this is because the Jamaat murdered him, a completely obnoxious and blatantly ignorant comment fueled by blind hatred and partisanship. The REAL series of events most probably have to do with the fact that Yousaf renounced the jammat (which explains his baseless fear of the khudam from Rabwah attacking him) thus when he was unfortunately murdered, many murders for many reasons happen in a country like Pakistan, he was no longer a member of the jamaat, thus he could not be acknowledged. 

It is just ridiculous how you hate mongers twist the facts in the most vile and dis-honourable way to misinform other people.

Just a shame. We Ahmadis can only pray for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical report proves nothing. It was already confirmed that the police were corrupting the facts to justify their actions. Ridiculous allegations are made here, with no supporting evidence, simply an opinion with flawed logic is stated. It is clear that the family of Yousaf were the ones who wanted to blame somebody for the death of their father, thus they blamed Qudos.</p>
<p>2)  The issue of Yousaf is that he was not acknowledged by the Khalif. Obviously AK Shaikh thinks this is because the Jamaat murdered him, a completely obnoxious and blatantly ignorant comment fueled by blind hatred and partisanship. The REAL series of events most probably have to do with the fact that Yousaf renounced the jammat (which explains his baseless fear of the khudam from Rabwah attacking him) thus when he was unfortunately murdered, many murders for many reasons happen in a country like Pakistan, he was no longer a member of the jamaat, thus he could not be acknowledged. </p>
<p>It is just ridiculous how you hate mongers twist the facts in the most vile and dis-honourable way to misinform other people.</p>
<p>Just a shame. We Ahmadis can only pray for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master Qudoos, murderer or murdered? by Rationalist</title>
		<link>http://ahmedi.org/general/master-qudoos-murderer-or-murdered/comment-page-1#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 16:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masroor should be jailed immediatley...

We have 2 unsolved murders and an Ahmadi mysteriously died.  This Ahmadi was a key witness.  

This Mirza family has been crooked since the 1850&#039;s.  They need to shut down their Kar-o-Bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masroor should be jailed immediatley&#8230;</p>
<p>We have 2 unsolved murders and an Ahmadi mysteriously died.  This Ahmadi was a key witness.  </p>
<p>This Mirza family has been crooked since the 1850&#8242;s.  They need to shut down their Kar-o-Bar.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and Baghaya by Danish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 14:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mubashir:  You are wrong. Bahaullah never claimed that he was a prophet.  Just like Jesus never claimed he was a god.  Bahaullah spent most of his time in prison and/or in hiding for fear of life.  his followers later on made him prophet or god.  

Probably you are taking about mormons, yes they have some so called prophets and one of them is in jail these days.  Name me one of their prophets that has gained fame and opposition like Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)?

As you said yourself, you don&#039;t know what Guru nanak&#039;s claim was, so you shouldn&#039;t even be mentioning his name as you don&#039;t know his claim.  But for your information he never claimed to be god or a prophet.  Infact sikhs believe in &#039;wahay guru&#039; one god.
One of the bani of Guru Nanak ji is:
&quot;Awwal Allah noor upaya qudrat keh sab banday
Ik noor se sab jag upja kon bhalay kon manday&quot;

Regarding imams, they never claimed to be prophets. If they had claimed to be prophets, i don&#039;t know how you can compare imam&#039;s with prophets.  If you think imams are prophets then why are you even arguing about ahmadis, you should go and start fighting with shias because as per your believes they have about 10 or 12 prophets, and they are also greater in number about 25% of muslims.  Aren&#039;t they a greater fitna for you then ahmadis?  

I get astonished when people try to defend false prophets, by showing that how Allah did not kill them and they flourished.  For God sakes have some ghairat for Allah ta&#039;ala and His Deen.  Allah can never let a false prophet say things claiming to be from Him.

and you got it all wrong that the verse was for a true prophet only.  Do you think Hazrat Muhammad (saw) nauzobillah would have ever lied? But Allah ta&#039;ala using him as an example said that any person if lied to be a prophet would have perished.  Don&#039;t you see that Noor is everywhere? Please open your eyes to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mubashir:  You are wrong. Bahaullah never claimed that he was a prophet.  Just like Jesus never claimed he was a god.  Bahaullah spent most of his time in prison and/or in hiding for fear of life.  his followers later on made him prophet or god.  </p>
<p>Probably you are taking about mormons, yes they have some so called prophets and one of them is in jail these days.  Name me one of their prophets that has gained fame and opposition like Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)?</p>
<p>As you said yourself, you don&#8217;t know what Guru nanak&#8217;s claim was, so you shouldn&#8217;t even be mentioning his name as you don&#8217;t know his claim.  But for your information he never claimed to be god or a prophet.  Infact sikhs believe in &#8216;wahay guru&#8217; one god.<br />
One of the bani of Guru Nanak ji is:<br />
&#8220;Awwal Allah noor upaya qudrat keh sab banday<br />
Ik noor se sab jag upja kon bhalay kon manday&#8221;</p>
<p>Regarding imams, they never claimed to be prophets. If they had claimed to be prophets, i don&#8217;t know how you can compare imam&#8217;s with prophets.  If you think imams are prophets then why are you even arguing about ahmadis, you should go and start fighting with shias because as per your believes they have about 10 or 12 prophets, and they are also greater in number about 25% of muslims.  Aren&#8217;t they a greater fitna for you then ahmadis?  </p>
<p>I get astonished when people try to defend false prophets, by showing that how Allah did not kill them and they flourished.  For God sakes have some ghairat for Allah ta&#8217;ala and His Deen.  Allah can never let a false prophet say things claiming to be from Him.</p>
<p>and you got it all wrong that the verse was for a true prophet only.  Do you think Hazrat Muhammad (saw) nauzobillah would have ever lied? But Allah ta&#8217;ala using him as an example said that any person if lied to be a prophet would have perished.  Don&#8217;t you see that Noor is everywhere? Please open your eyes to see it.</p>
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