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Canadian Qadianis Running Away and Losing Debates

Since they lost the debate with me in early 2011, Ansar Raza and the Qadiani Ahmadiyya have been desperately trying to arrange other debates so that they can wash off that defeat.  They run away from well-known people and try to trap lesser-known people with strange topics — but as Allah would have it — every Muslim debater is well-versed in his deen and has the confidence of logic and truth on his side.

After the ignominious defeat to Sadat Anwar, they are again trying to hold an event.  We will not go into the detail of this future debate until it is formalized, but for now, please read the email conversation of them eager to hold a debate and then running away from a Quran scholar who was in Canada and who shares some beliefs about Jesus (as) with the Qadianis.  What better person to debate with, and why did they run away?  Read below and let us know what you think and please give them some advice:

Qadianis say they want to debate Scholars. Scholars show up and they run away.  Lay people show up and they lose!

Qadianis ask for formal letter

From: tufailahmed_pk [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 7:32 AM
To: info@iipc.tv; Adnan Kaleemi;
Alamm; Naveed Qureishi

Subject: Invitation letter
Salaam Br Mohsin

I talked today with br M Shaikh. We are arranging a meeting with Ahmadiyya community. In that relation they want a letter (on iipc letterhead) in the following format as soon possible.  Br Tufail ahmed


National President
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
Subject; visit , meeting and introduction.


1)  Brief introduction of IIPC.
2)  Brief Introduction of Br M Shaikh
3)  TOPIC of discussion ” JESUS” and “MUHAMMAD ”



The Formal Letterreply

Aslam Daud Acknowledges Invite and is Keen

From: adaud@xxxxxxxxx.ca
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 14:40:21 -4000
Subject: Re: detail information for invitation.
To amirwahab@xxxxxxx.com
Dear Amir Wahab Sahib,

Assalamo alaikum wa Rahmatullah!

I have received the invitation and will get back to you. In the meantime, please check couple of suitable dates for a meeting. We can invite him to a dinner too.


Dr. Aslam Daud
Na’ib Amir
Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at Canada
Tel: 1-416-560-xxxx Email: adaud@xxxxxxx.ca www.ahmadiyya.ca

Amir Wahab (Qadiani) writes to His Leader

On Thurday, 10 October 2013, 22:02, amir wahab amirwahab@xxxxxxxx.com wrote:

Respected Ameer Sahab:

I talked to my friend Mr.Tufail Ahmed and he asked me for the confirmation of the following:

  1. Proposed date of lecture is Saturday 26th October after Maghreb prayers.
  2. Video coverage of the session.
  3. Total heads attending the lecture?
  4. The topic of the lecture (2 or 3 would be good to select one out of those).


Amir Wahab

Muslim Debater Requests Video

On Friday, 11 October 2013, 8:55, tufial ahmed tufailahmed_pk@xxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

Salam Amir Wahab

Just want to add one point that we will make video recording and will give you the finished copy of it. Secondly at the same time we want to relay live lecture on our internet channel for our brothers in Karachi and around the world.


Tufail Ahmed.

Amir Wahab (Qadiani) Leaves Canada

On Thrusday, 17 October 2013, 18:09, tufail ahmed tufailahmed_pk@xxxxxxxx.com wrote:

Saalam o Alaikum Br.Aslam Daud

As you may know Amir Wahab has left for Pakistan due personal reasons, and he asked me to contact you.

Any update on specific date of lecture and topic of speech.

We have send for print the lecture copies.

Your early response will be highly appreciated.

Tufail Ahmed.



Qadiani Leader Blames His Missionary School & Runs Away

Dear Tufail Ahmed Sahib.

Assalamo alaikum wa Rahmatullah!

Our reviewing the request our Jamia has indicated that unfortunately they would not be hold this event. Any inconvenience is regretted.



Dr. Aslam Daud
Na’ib Amir
Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at Canada

Tel: 1-416-560-xxxx Email: adaud@xxxxxxxxxxx.ca www.ahmadiyya.ca


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If this video does not open eyes then GOD knows what will…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m8uOA59q7g Qadiyanis have been defeated educationally in debates and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad their founder has been proven to be a grand liar beyond doubt. However, their sheer arrogance and ignorance has no limits and they still think that they are spreading their false beliefs successfully in the name of Islam and are growing in numbers, and establishing places of worship……etc. My only advice to all Muslims and other Non-Muslim truth seekers is that have faith in ALLAH s.w.t., (GOD Almighty). The falsehood of Ahmadiyyat will NOT last for… Read more »
Watch this and open your eyes:



When truth comes falsehood is bound to perish.

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Watch this and open your eyes:



When truth comes falsehood is bound to perish.

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One more proof that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad founder of Ahmadiyyat was a grand Liar: He claimed to be a Prophet, Messiah, Mahdi all-in-one person. Now Ahmadis just use your common sense…does it make sense to you that a person can be all-in-one? Further, to be a man of such a high stature Mirza had to prove himself…on the contrary we see that he was a liar (due to failed prophecies such as marriage with Muhammadi begum), a foul mouthed person (vulgar statements and curses hurled at Prophet Isa a.s & his entire family, or anyone who opposed him), made false… Read more »
Brother Anwar Sadat refuted the Ahmadi position very nicely. Well done brother!!!!
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Often Ahmadis, the followers of false Prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claim to be Muslims because they supposedly recite the Kalima. The Kalima of Islam for those who do not know is “La Ilaha IlalaAllah Muhammad RasulAllah.” meaning “There is no other GOD except ALLAH s.w.t. and Muhammad p.b.u.h. is his Messenger. In order to be Muslims, as Ahmadis claim to be, one has to believe in this Kalima word to word with its meanings. You cannot say you believe in it yet you deny the essence of it in one way or another. It is not just repeating kalima like… Read more »
It is the sunnah of Allah s.w.t that falsehood is bound to perish, no matter how much they cover up. This is going to be the case with Ahmadiyyat too. Why has it not happened so far is because Allah s.w.t in my opinion is giving them a chance to free themselves from clutches of falsehood, but when the time is up then it is game over. Allah s.w.t is also testing the Muslims to see if they do their job of speaking the truth about Islam. Some scholars have done that and saved the Ummah from falling in this… Read more »
What is this? moderator please delete this post as it looks awful? The debate with Mirzai’s (Ahmadiyya) can be finished in one sentence: In Islam there is no room for any new prophets to come after Muhammad s.a.w.s. Anyone like Musailima, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan, who claims to be a prophet after him are automatically liars and outside the religion of Islam. End of debate. By the way Mirza was not just a liar but a grand liar. A lot of Ahmadis are in the dark, they do not know these facts. Their evil cult has managed to keep… Read more »
Qadiyanis are dishonest. They say they follow authentic Quran and Hadith, yet they deny both and only take meanings out of it to suit the lies of Mirza Ghulam Qadiyani. How can anyone logically have a debate with them. Those who are trying like Anwar Sadat must be commended. Qadiyanis Mullas never stick to the point they always keep lying and changing their position. It is one of the most corrupted religion on Earth today. Muslims please stay with the authentic teachings of your religion don’t let them fool you at any cost. Qadiyanis are not Muslims they are a… Read more »
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