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Peace
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@A4L, You are back. I thought after reading Mirza Sahib’s English ilhamaat, you will see the light, but it seems you still cannot see the truth. It is OK, I know some people take more time than others. But I hope and sincerely hope that one day you will be able to see the light that Mirza Sahib was neither a Prophet of GOD nor a Messiah but a liar and an imposter who tried to steal and hijack the religion of Islam. I will give you one more hint: Most of Mirza Sahibs predictions turned out to be false.… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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“This is the belief of the entire Ummah, 99%, since the earliest written records. In 33:40, Allah finished off the bloodline of prophets. All prophets were related to each other in a blood line.” Furthermore on this ignorant statement, I am finding it hard as to where to start from. Is the prerequisite to know truth in Islam is following majority? As far as my study of Quran goes that is certainly not the case. Majority is not always right. Islam is not about might is right rather right is might. That is why Quran says the following: [6:116/117] And… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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“This is the belief of the entire Ummah, 99%, since the earliest written records. In 33:40, Allah finished off the bloodline of prophets. All prophets were related to each other in a blood line” Majority of scholars did hold that view, but this why Promised Messiah (as) had to be the one who had to break the cross. It was Promised Messiah (as) alone who proved it from Quran, hadith, Bible, historical and medical records that Jesus survived death on the cross, thus literally breaking the foundations of Christianity. “Muhammad (saw) was stating that people shouldnt compare prophets. Where are… Read more »
Aisha
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Another thing i’d like to add: “Reincarnation, no we don’t believe in the modern Hindu concept. One is called lion for ones bravery doesn’t mean that the person being called lion physically reincarnates into a lion. Your approach is very shallow. It’s not your fault, it’s your sources making you like themselves.” You definitely don’t believe in the modern Hindu concept, but according to Kalamatul-Fazl, (a highly recommended book among the ahmadiyya literature) the concept of Avatar (Baruz) which is an orthodox Hindu concept, has been incorporated into the faith of “Ahmadi” Muslims very conveniently. Perhaps, it has been incorporated… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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“I don’t see why you seem to be so bothered by my copy/paste of Mirza Saheb’s writings, do you expect me to intellectually reproduce his writings?” I was referring to the spammer Peace, not you. He was mentioning titles. “Whatever writings I’ve quoted are authentic and bias-free in nature, in fact the very source that i had cited these writings from was that of Alislam.org, i highly doubt that’s an anit-ahmadiyya website. You might assume that, considering that most of Mirza Saheb’s writings contradict each other and appear to go against his own positions; and yes, i know you claim… Read more »
Peace
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@A4L, What do you know about me that you are accusing me as a spammer. I am true follower of Allah s.w.t. and his beloved messenger s.a.w.s. You are not a Muslim but a scammer who follows the dajjal Mirza Sahib, as foretold by nabi s.a.w.s in following hadith: “In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals), each of whom will claim to be a prophet, But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me.” (Abu Dawood Vol. 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol. 2 p.45) As per above hadith, anyone who believes in another… Read more »
Aisha
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I don’t see why you seem to be so bothered by my copy/paste of Mirza Saheb’s writings, do you expect me to intellectually reproduce his writings? Whatever writings I’ve quoted are authentic and bias-free in nature, in fact the very source that i had cited these writings from was that of Alislam.org, i highly doubt that’s an anit-ahmadiyya website. You might assume that, considering that most of Mirza Saheb’s writings contradict each other and appear to go against his own positions; and yes, i know you claim the contradictions to be a misunderstanding on our part because we refuse to… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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@ All All these answers are soooo hollow. Shows that you are running out of your arguments so raising new accusations, actually same accusations that your Mullahs have been raising for over 100 years. Funny how you brought up Promised Messiah (as) again in response to my comment about you running away from real topics such as the death of Jesus. Death of Jesus comes first, and then his “rebirth/second coming” comes next. In case your source of knowledge is no more than anti Ahmadiyya websites, I must remind you that we never believe that the same Jesus of Nazareth… Read more »
Peace
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@A4L, Mirza Sahib made a false claim to be messiah Isa (Jesus) a.s.The way he claimed is quite stupid to say the least. He said he was pregnant for nine months and then GOD turned him into Jesus a.s. You A4L who claim to be so intelligent, can you not figure out that this was a scam? When we give you proof of Mirza Sahibs dubious claims you say this was metaphorical which is basically a lie and a cover up. How the hell can one have a logical debate or discussion with Ahmadis like you then? It is highly… Read more »
Aisha
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“I have answered this in great length. Read the book “Haqeeqatun nabuwwah” (from start to finish) that you guys quoted me earlier and see the answer. This very issue has been dealt with in quite a great detail…” Again, I did not ask you how he came to the “conclusion” of finding out that he’s a prophet. I simply asked you to tell me whether or not the statement that you made about Mirza Saheb never denying prophethood in general but only a category of it, is a lie or is it that of you being misinformed? Same question goes… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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Holy Prophet (saw) called anyone who considers Muhammad (saw) superior to Jonah to be a liar. Are you a liar? He also called Ibrahim (as) to be superior than him. Do you consider Muhammad (saw) inferior to Ibrahim (as) as a result? If you consider Holy Prophet (saw) to be superior to all other prophets who stepped on this earth then what about his earlier statements? Was that a mistake? Did he misunderstand his prophethood and his status? Why did he say that Moses and Jesus would have followed him were they alive then? And yes the very fact that… Read more »
Aisha
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“Depends as to what do you understand by infallible. He did lead people in prayers towards Baital Maqdis until God revealed to him the correct direction for Qibla. Unbelievers could call it a mistake initially if they had similar mindset as yourself.” What I understand by “infallible” is being sin-free, or precisely, being protected from sinning. However, I do agree that being mistaken, or making any human error in judgment does count as sinning. But in the case of praying towards another Qibla in the time of Prophet Muhammad,was not sinning or mistaking. The prescribed direction for Qibla was Jeruselem… Read more »
Aisha
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“So do you consider Muhammad (saw) as the best of all creation or not? If you do then what about these Hadiths. Especially the last one in which he calls Ibrahim to be better than himself? Would you consider this to be progression in Muhammad’s (saw) claims of prophethood then?” I honestly get what you are trying to do, when you can’t explain or back up your beliefs, you twist and turn the ahadith. What youre trying to do here is to somehow be able to twist the Quranic ayah that commands us to make no distinctions between the prophets,… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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“You say that prophets never make a mistake or sin. You need to be reminded of Adam (as) eating that apple which Allah forbade them to eat.” – Okay, this could be my mistake. But the Quran does speak of Prophet Muhammad saw to be infallible. And if Prophet Muhammad saw is infallible, how is his “Burooz” not?” Depends as to what do you understand by infallible. He did lead people in prayers towards Baital Maqdis until God revealed to him the correct direction for Qibla. Unbelievers could call it a mistake initially if they had similar mindset as yourself.… Read more »
Aisha
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“You say that prophets never make a mistake or sin. You need to be reminded of Adam (as) eating that apple which Allah forbade them to eat.” – Okay, this could be my mistake. But the Quran does speak of Prophet Muhammad saw to be infallible. And if Prophet Muhammad saw is infallible, how is his “Burooz” not? Also, I still stick to the point that the Quran explicitly commands its followers to make no distinction between the prophets. But you have no choice but to overlook or misinterpret this verse because Mirza Saheb has constantly put himself above the… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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Wow so much copy and pasting from you and Peace and majority of my comments are still awaiting moderation? So do I respond or do I just let you have final world in each thread? This shows that you are totally frustrated and probably want to block me now! You say that prophets never make a mistake or sin. You need to be reminded of Adam (as) eating that apple which Allah forbade them to eat. You also need to be reminded that Moses (as) killed a human being early in his life. Regarding 50 v’s 5, Yes I very… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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Eid is a jokes topic. For example, ELM in UK made the announcement that it’s Eid as soon as Saudi announced it. People were still fasting and wishing everybody Eid Mubarak in UK on their 28th/29th fast. Just doesn’t make sense!

And you talk about ‘moon sighting’?

#misguidance

Aisha
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Before every claim that Mirza Saheb made, he would made a counter response before hand. This pattern clearly shows the laying of foundation for elevating his positions slowly by slowly. Claim 1: I am a Muhaddith Claim 2: I am the like of a Mahdi, but not the Mahdi who has been referred to in the hadeeth. Hell, who says there can only be 1 mahdi, there will be many to come, i just happen to be one of them. Claim 3: In actuality i am only a Muhaddith promised to appear in every century. Claim 4: I am the… Read more »
Aisha
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This is similar to how Holy prophet (saw) once considered his prophethood to be no greater than Moses (as). But then Quran declared him as best of all prophets later on. LOL. How do you master the art of deceits, lies and that of twisting of facts? Prophet Muhammad did not consider his prophethood inferior or at the same level to that of Moses a.s based on his opinion or thought, but he did so in regard to adhering by the Quranic ayah: ..”and in that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make any… Read more »
Aisha
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“I recommend you to read that book “haqeeqatun nabuwwah” from start to finish for the sake of understanding and not to find faults. It is a fantastic book that clears everything so beautifully for anyone who seeks knowledge not faults.” Okay so Mirza Saheb claims that due to the misunderstanding, on his part and of that of all the previous saints and auliya, of the concept of Nabbuwat, he always considered his position to be that of a Muhadith only and not that of a prophet IN ANY SENSE but only metaphorically. But as he realized and “corrected” his belief… Read more »
Aisha
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“I would need to see the exact quote from ‘a misconception removed’ regarding the 20%.” – Sorry that was an expression used to indicate Mirza Saheb’s claim of being a “dependent nabi; to signify his concept of “dependent nabis” being less significant than that of full fledged prophets themselves (former opinion ofcourse). “Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) very clearly wrote this in his book “aik ghalati ka azala” (A misconception removed) that whenever he has denied prophethood it is that “mustaqil” (law bearing) prophethood that he has denied.” I’m getting tired of your lies already. It is obvious that after… Read more »
Peace
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@ Aisha, You have nailed A4L and he must be shaking in his boots. Watch he will now come out with the old tactics of MGA cursing, bull shitting and more lies of course…….this is how Ahmadis operate. As they say you loose money in life and you can gain it back, but if you loose character once, that’s it, it is hard to gain respect in society again…..and this is exactly what happened with MGA, QK2, and other Khalifas of Ahmadiyyat. Now their cult leaders are seeking asylum, using politicians to gain favors, fooling the ignorant westeners, lying in… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
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Shaking in my boots buddy lol. You ended the conversation with me yesterday and are talking about me indirectly now? I know your kind sonny jim, this is like back biting. Stop already…

Ahmadiyyat all day……………

Peace
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Grow up , why you are wasting so much time selling daddy MGA. I tell you it is not going to work here……you may be a good salesman but your product is bogus.
Ahmadi4Life
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Your middle name should be bogus with the amount of copy and paste you bring to the table. Bogus statements. Bogus allegations. One after the other. I have no time for spammers.
Peace
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@A4L, have some courage to speak the truth even if it goes against your beliefs. As to who is bogus lets analyze further: I give one more proof that Mirza Sahib had a dirty mind, which is not befitting for a Prophet of Allah s.w.t. Mirza Sahib claimed that GOD had ordained his marriage with Muhammadi Begum, which never happened. In the following reference, Mirza Sahib also mentioned a dream he had in which he saw Muhammadi Begum NAKED……….!!! (Tadhkirah Pages 158, 159, 160) All I ask you, is this false allegation? If it is true will you admit that… Read more »
Aisha
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“Sorry your “lol’s” don’t convince me at ALL.” – Sorry, i’m not here to convince you, with the grace of God He has one quarter of the world honoring the finality of our Prophet Muhammad saw, who completed our deen for us,yet inshaAllah with many more believers to come; and the fools awaiting more prophets to come can rejoice under their tiny little charity asylums in the west lol #Disgraced
Ahmadi4Life
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I would need to see the exact quote from ‘a misconception removed’ regarding the 20%. 50 v’s 5? Read the details of the Miraj. Allah almighty started with prescribing 50 prayers and ended up with 5 prayers on the insistence of the Holy Prophet (saw). Allah then says “these 5 are actually 50”. Would you say the same thing about Allah, like you do about the Promised Messiah (as)? How are you so convinced that any disparity in numbers is because of ‘lies’ and not honest guesses? It’s not like Pakistan, India and the whole African continent had the latest… Read more »
Aisha
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“50 v’s 5? Read the details of the Miraj. Allah almighty started with prescribing 50 prayers and ended up with 5 prayers on the insistence of the Holy Prophet (saw).” “Allah then says “these 5 are actually 50?. Would you say the same thing about Allah, like you do about the Promised Messiah (as)?” Again, lies and deceit. Do you know the background of this hadith? ofcourse not. Hadith no: 450 Narrated / Authority of: Anas bin Malik and Ibn Hazm “During descending back to this earth with this sacred present, the blessed Prophet Muhammad was stopped and questioned by… Read more »
Aisha
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“This is TYPICAL Mullah tactic” – Honestly, that is all an Ahmedi can ever say in response to Muslims, these mullahs really got your tails crushed under their feet, no? lol
Ahmadi4Life
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I say it because I know you love the word Mullah 🙂 It’s all over the anti Ahmadi forums, didn’t you know?

Murrabi>Mullah

Aisha
Guest
“The quotes of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam (as) you mention have already been explained in his book “A Misconception Removed” that whenever he denied being a prophet it was LAW BEARING PROPHETHOOD that he denied.” – LOL. Thank you for proving how you also happen to be a fool from the same lot of blind followers who limit their research only to such writings of Mirza Saheb which suits their arguments at best. A misconception removed, huh? i’ve read that book atleast twice and it repeatedly makes the same point through out the context, which being the following: “i am a… Read more »
Aisha
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“So who is the final prophet brother, Holy Prophet (saw) or Prophet Jesus (as)?” lol, let’s turn this question right at you: “I believe in all the items of faith as prescribed by the Sunni School of Islam and I accept everything that is according to the Quran and Hadith. I fully subscribe to the doctrine that Muhammad is the last of all Prophets, and that any claimant to Prophethood after him is an impostor and a Kafir.” – (Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol 2, Page 20) pay close attention to the word “all”. lol ” It is my belief that the revelations… Read more »
Peace
Guest
@ Aisha, You have gone into great detail to expose MGA’s fraud. Ahmadi4Life learn something from this and go and do an independent (open minded) research and you will come to the same conclusion that MGA was a grand liar, and you call him a Prophet, Imam Mahdi and Messiah (all in one). If you still dont care and you want to blindly follow the grand liar MGA, no one will stop you, it is your choice. I end this conversation with you as it is only Allah s.w.t who gives guidance, and none can guide those whom Allah s.w.t… Read more »
Aisha
Guest
best form of islam? they’re not even a part of islam. They’e so deluded! lol
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Keep kidding yourself homegirl.
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
I totally understand why you need to exit. More bogus statements. You do not know me so cannot judge my morals just because of my faith.

We do not have any hate for Muslims. We just wish they would accept the Promised Messiah (as) and let go of the ego/arrogance they posses.

Farewell.

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
possess*
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Oh hello newbie, no salutations? How rude! So you’ve been reading the discussions we’ve been having about the word ‘all’ or ‘kul’ in other verses of the Holy Quran but you have chosen to remain silent about their explanations. Instead you have copied and pasted writing’s of the Promised Messiah (as) to divert discussion. This is TYPICAL Mullah tactic…. 🙂 The quotes of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam (as) you mention have already been explained in his book “A Misconception Removed” that whenever he denied being a prophet it was LAW BEARING PROPHETHOOD that he denied. As for the same old ‘numbers’… Read more »
Peace
Guest
Qadianism is a fitna that totally destroys a persons faith, just like Iblees (shaitan). I would not be surprised if MGA was an Iblees worshipper.

Islam is simple and pure. It is the only true religion of Allah s.w.t. and practiced by all true Prophets p.b.u.them (I say truePprophets because there are fake ones like MGA)

Light
Guest
@4pac Thank you for your comment about leaving Islam. I left Ahmadiyyat which was a very big relief for me and then last year I left Islam and that was something I had to do after what happened to me but now I am so spiritually happy, freedom of choice is best because then you give yourself only to God. I am not messed up, well I was when I was an ahmadi but there is a vast difference to the person I was then to what I am now. @Qadiani4Life Brother why so angry, you can post on the… Read more »
Qadiani4Life
Guest
Lol who is angry? I’m answering with a smirk on my face while you are the one who is saying and I quote “I’m very angry”, did you forget? This is typical Mullah tactic.. the reverse psychology game. Wackness!!! Ex Ahmadis are extremely hush when discussing their own beliefs. And I don’t really blame you. I don’t need to register with your forum if Ahmadis are already representing there. I’m commenting on this blog because you have to admit, it’s rather dry. And could someone please make it look a bit modern, it’s nearly 2015. Regarding good ol’ Findings, you… Read more »
Light
Guest
@ Qadiani4life I was once like you, an ahmadi that defended ahmadiyyat in every way but there were many questions left unanswered which led me to research my own outlook on ahmadiyyat and mirza ghulam ahmad and I was rather shocked at what I read and found out. I have to admit that the forum on Cult.info is rather dry and in regards to Findings she did open many ahmadis minds, she came with evidence and what the jamaat hides from the normal ahmadis. I used those forums for my research too and that helped a lot. I guess my… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
What happened to the sister?

Had a funny feeling she would not want to discuss her new beliefs!

Either that or she is embarrassed to say she is Sunni.

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Vanished at the speed of Light.
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Why you dissing her like that for bro?
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Don’t worry bout the @ signs peoples, I’m the only one talking lol Sister Light, your intensive prayers to Allah helped you leave the Ahmadiyyat Jamaat and then ultimately leave the beautiful religion of Islam? Mubarak on your new found faith. You went from defending Ahmadiyyat to defending/preaching what exactly? Let me know what it’s called so I can Google it or maybe when you’re extremely passionate about it, we can discus your new beliefs. Obviously if God showed you the light, I would love to hear about it. Many Ahmadis and whole families leaving in large numbers? Are we… Read more »
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Who said Islam is dying?

STOP TWISTING MY WORDS.

Outside Ahmadiyyat, other versions of Islam are in a sorry state. That’s just a fact.

You guys can’t even celebrate the Holiest Day of the year right, but like I said, there’s always hope.

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Ain’t nothing debunked my friend.

if there was no community in Islam progressing and gaining strength like Ahmadiyyat then a true seeker will certainly ask questions as to why Allah would leave Islam and it’s followers in this sorry state.

Ahmadis thank Allah that He didn’t leave Islam at the mercy of MULLAHS.

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
If the internet killed Ahmadiyyat then why doesn’t it show in reality?

Ahmadi Mosques are being constructed worldwide at an immense speed Alhumdullilah. Even in my own country. Progression of Jamaat in all fields…This could never happen if we were ‘slowed’ in any way.

Truth is that it is Allah who is behind this Divine Jamaat.

Ahmadiyyat all day…..

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Blame it on admin.

Have you ever compared the spread of Ahmadiyyat in it’s first 100 years to that of Christianity?

Over 100 countries ain’t no joke!

Ahmadi4Life
Guest
I think you are referring to the computer age in the western world. Majority of Ahmadis belong to the non western world.
Ahmadi4Life
Guest
Let’s be honest bro, the stats weren’t correct to begin with. I don’t think Jamaat had a good tally of members back in the days.

I’m pretty sure they have an accurate figure now though, but on a real though… ‘quality’ over quantity any day!

Peace.

Qadiani4Life
Guest
Iman* as well as Imam* lol
Qadiani4Life
Guest
He already did ‘revert’ to Islam (I always find that phrase odd as compared to convert). So who corrupted his Imam when he was hanging with rightly guided people from here after leaving Jamaat? Why did you let this happen????

Shame on a…. who try to run game…

Peace
Guest
@ Qadiani4life, The biggest mistake you and other Qadianis make, is not looking within yourself and your mafia cult! You need to do a serious study of MGA books and teachings, and once you do that, I guarantee you and I mean it, that you will find out that Ahmadiyyat is one of the biggest fraud on Earth. What you and other Qadiyanis are doing is wasting a lot of your time and others time, in useless arguments and debates. Just like a lot of people who smoke either don’t know or don’t care about its ill effects until they… Read more »
Peace
Guest
First he had already left Islam when he was an Ahmedi. Ahmadiyyat must have totally corrupted this persons Iman so much so that he has lost his way.

Second, as true hidayat comes from Allah s.w.t. only, we hope one day this person will come back to the fold of Islam.

Qadiani4Life
Guest
????????

Anti Ahmadi blogs today are dry as hell. I don’t know which one is worse, this or cult info.

Even cult info won’t publish my comments.

#Losers

Qadiani4Life
Guest
He was praying to Allah whilst in the jamaat. You helped him stop worshipping Allah ALTOGETHER. Mad props bro. So who is the final prophet brother, Holy Prophet (saw) or Prophet Jesus (as)? It’s so blatently obvious that the Holy Prophet (saw) was referring to Islam being the final word of God but you just HAVE to take EVERTYTHING literally. Over a million Muslims in my country end up celebrating EId on the wrong day because of your not so guided leaders. And then they all have to apologise about it on their TV channels. Misguidance to the max. And… Read more »
Qadiani4Life
Guest
In fact Farhan Khan helped this guy leave Ahmadiyya Jamaat which in turn helped him leave Islam altogether.

Shabash puttars. Great going. Lol

Qadiani4Life
Guest
This guy left Islam altogether and here you are showing a decade old video.

Do you not notice a pattern when people leave a divine jamaat? They end up believing in nonsense.

Peace
Guest
Alhamdulillah! Allah s.w.t. has shown you his sign of mercy by granting you hidaya.
InshaAllah you will also earn great pleasure of Allah s.w.t by being a Dayi of Islam and inviting people to the truth!
May Allah s.w.t shower his mercy upon you. Please pray for the Ummah as well, especially to protect us from the fitna of this evil cult.
Ameen
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