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Humility explained through intercourse

I would share some goodies by MGAQ. Afterall Ruhani Khazain are not that Ruhani .This is from Zameemah Baraaheen-e-Ahmadiyya. Part-5. I would translate this according to my english skills, if you could come up with a better one please do.MGAQ is defining the feeling of humility and humbleness and what happens when a person cries in humility.

 

MGAQ goes on to say: and they think that we have met God. but that pleasure is just as if an adulterer has with an unlawful women….(PS. please note he’s defining here about what kind of humility people from bad community feel like people who worship idols and dance on music etc)... next para

“and another symbolic mutuality is of humility and sperm and that is when a Sperm enters in the private-part (vagina) of a wife or any other woman; so sperm’s entering into the vagina and when the ejaculation flowing is just like crying because result of humility is crying too and like this when ejaculation of sperm occurs uncontrolled sperm bursts out in a flow. Same great situation is when in humility when tears burst into a uncontrolled flow from eyes and as the pleasure of ejaculation is halaal kind of whereas a man contacts(rujoo’) his wife and sometimes haraam kind when a man contacts(rujoo’) an unlawful woman”……

I would really like to hear from our Ahmadi friends to give us an insight into this gem from Mirza Sahib. I dont know why MGAQ chose to symbolize a feeling of humility with intercourse but I am pretty sure that there were 1000 better ways of explaining humility and differentiating it with halal or haram humility than what we just came across.

 

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alm786
“Read this what bible says about Jesus family tree.”

My advice to you is read what the Holy Quran says about Jesus p.b.u.h and his mother Mariam p.b.u.h.

How shameful of you that you support misguided teaching of Mirza and supposedly the words of Bible, that insult this mighty Messenger of Allah s.w.t.?

As far as cursing one another and wishing for punishment of Allah s.w.t. is concerned Mirza already did this and died with his own curse. Hope that you are fully aware of this.

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You are right, i guess i should not be defending Hazrat Maseeh Maud (as) with you. You have shown me that people on this platform have failed to understand logic, and they have failed to undersrtand logic and common sense. If Hazrat Muhammad (saw) has told us already that his ummah will be completely like jews, what i can do to change that fact. Just like jews are still waiting for Elijah, you will keep on waiting for Esa (as). Just like jews tried to kill, abuse and persecute Christians, you will keep on trying to do that to the… Read more »
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alm786,

But what you have done is quite contrary to teachings of Islam. You have bound yourself to a cult that has nothing to do with Islam but using its name. Its founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be a Prophet.

Pay attention please and I leave you with the following Hadith to ponder upon:

“In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals), each of whom will claim to be a prophet, But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me.” (Abu Dawood Vol. 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol. 2 p.45)

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“then Prophet Muhammad (saw) made decisions based upon Bible for them”

What a thing to say, can you please come up with an example to prove your point.

alm786
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Sahi Bukhari (The Book of Funerals)
No. 1251 – Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar :
The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque.”

This punishment for aldutery is not in Quran, it’s in Bible and it is apparent that Hazrat Muhammad (saw) gave this punishment to jewish couple for the same reason.

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Aay Khokar, alm 786, To the best of my knowledge there is no person on Earth so far who wrote such disgusting things about Allah s.w.t, his Messengers p.b.u,them, and their pious followers, as Mirza Ghulam A.Qadiani did. Also, there is no one, except MIRZA Ghulam A Qadiani, who has compared having SEX with WORSHIPING GOD. I really don’t care about the irrelevant topics you are bringing here to extend the argument and defend the lying and disgusting MIRZA. Why are you not getting the point that this man cannot be a Maseeh Maud or a Messiah or Mahdi, or… Read more »
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Don’t we see the plants and trees whatever the age they may attain; they stay all naked in winter and bear the cold but when comes the spring—-they have but to bloom. They are pressed for this design. Human being too is designed to produce the kids bring them up and retire. Whereas pleasure that one gets in sex is the most pleasant reward of Almighty bestowed to all the mammal for doing Allah’s job that once hooked into it; our entire life is spent rearing it and there is no harm in discussing it or exploring this field and… Read more »
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Clear Proof from Hadith, that refutes the claims of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani:

“In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals), each of whom will claim to be a prophet, But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me.” (Abu Dawood Vol. 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol. 2 p.45)

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alm786 wrote, “The fact is that prophets and saints who come to this world to reform people and explain them everything openly are not shy of mentioning anything.” O.K. But it is crystal clear that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was neither a Prophet nor a Messiah or a Mahdi or even a decent person. He was a grand liar who had vulgar habits and according to some strong opinions he used to drink alcohol and commit Zina also. Here is one one example and reference of his vulgarity and false accusations against the noble Prophet of Allah s.w.t: “Jesus’s three… Read more »
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“He was a grand liar who had vulgar habits and according to some strong opinions he used to drink alcohol and commit Zina also”. Your above comment is baseless and have no logic. I leave your case to Allah that May He show you a real sign soon, if you are false in your bad mouthing, and Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is His loved one. Amen. What Hazrat Maseeh Maud (as) wrote about Jesus (as) was from the bible itself. There are 4 woman who are directly linked to Jesus (as) as per Bible and they all are prostitute… Read more »
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alm786, Your so called Hz. Maseeh Maud never said that he wrote from Bible. These are your thougts. His allegations are baseless, just like he wrote that Jesus p.b.u.h died and is buried in Kashmir which is wrong, similarly, he was also wrong in his allegations against the noble mother of Jesus, Mariam p.b.u.them. His language was so vulgar that this is what he wrote about those who did not believe in him, but you know what, the children of his first wife also did not believe in him. So does it also make them the “Children of Prostitute” and… Read more »
alm786
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“Except for the Children of Prostitutes, whose hearts have been sealed by God, everyone else has accepted me and believes in my Prophethood.” (Aina-e-Kamalate Islam, Roohani Khazain vol 5 p.547)”

Show me exact same words in english or urdu from his books and i will believe you that Hazrat Maseeh Maud (as) has indeed said this; otherwise, i will believe that you are a liar.

alm786
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The reference you have given me is from a book which is in arabic. Are you sure you gave me the right reference? I don’t see anything about children of prostitute there….
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alm 786, The following is the reference to MIRZA’s statement, check out the book and you will definitely find it there like many other Ahmadis have found and come back to Islam. What more do you want from us. We are only conveying the message so that one day you will realize that you are in a cult that has nothing to do with Islam, and come to the Islam and please don’t shoot at us for that. This is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much lies, confusion, hate, disrespect and kufr in Mirza’s teachings that… Read more »
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my apologies not all 4, 3 of them.
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I think “alm786” is not replying to the valid points raised here. Rather this person is deflecting the problem and allegedly comparing our noble Prophets words and also the Holy Quran with the vulgar language of MIRZA Qadiani, wrote lies about Allah s.w.t, Insulted the noble Prophets p.b.u.t, and Sahaba r.a., and tried to make a mokery of the deen of Islam.
alm786
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There is not much to debate here. I can very clearly understand what Hazrat Maseeh Maud (as) has said, and i don’t find anything lustrous in there. This has been a common practice of sufis that they present worldly objects as a symbol and comparison to spiritual objects. In tafsir in the link below and in the tafsir of mododi sb they have even mentioned ‘masturbation’ in the same chapter Al-Muminun. http://qurango.com/images/tafsir/18.pdf The fact is that prophets and saints who come to this world to reform people and explain them everything openly are not shy of mentioning anything. Take for… Read more »
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The point that you should be looking into is not that Qur’an used the word “nutfa”, the whole point is the lustrous explanation of Mirza Sahib and in depth details of intercourse, who does that? I hope you can share with us any other commentator having these views and way of explanations. You can come to the forum if you want to go in a debate, you are most welcome.
Peace
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Can a person of Mirzas character be even called a decent human leave alone being a Maseeh Maud?
Peace
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Some people are either completely missing the point here or are deliberately trying to link the vulgar language and gutter mind of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani who according to some very strong opinions was an alcoholic and an adulterer, with the noble words of Holy Quran in which Allah s.w.t. is addressing mankind by explaining his creation.
alm786
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Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is answering the criticism on Holy Quran by presenting Sura Al-Muminun. Critics argued that the way Allah has presented the physical state from sperm till full formation is not correct based on new scientific studies. Hazrat Maseeh Maud (as) gave logic and reason by using this surah. 23:2-8: Surely, success does come to the believers, Who are humble in their Prayers, And who shun all that which is vain, And who are active in paying the Zakat, And who guard their chastity — Except from their wives or what their right hands possess, for then… Read more »
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looks like Mirza Ghulam was a mental case and suffered from a very complex personality disorders. How can anyone consider such an insane person as Masih Maud…………???????????????????? “I saw in one of my vision that I myself am God and believed that I am Him.” (Kitab-ul-Bariayh, Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p.103) “Like Maryam the soul of Eisa was breathed into me and metaphorically I was made pregnant, and after many months, which were not more than 10 months, through that inspiration which is mentioned in the end of Braheen Ahmadiyya part 4 page 556, I was converted from Maryam to… Read more »
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